Hey, Barack: FUCK YOU and The Horse You Rode In On

March 4, 2008

There have been some interesting responses to my recent post Hey, Barack: FUCK YOU! Some wise commenters have been all like “Yeah, PhysioProf! You kick ass!!” Some benighted souls, however, have been all like, “Hey, PhysioProf, you fucking naif! Obama is just doing what it takes to get elected. Republicans won’t like him if he honestly espouses liberal values.” I want to analyze this reaction in more detail right now.

Excellent blogger Myrtle June had a different take than PhysioProf on Obama’s comments:

What he was saying is that these things aren’t JUST ONLY liberal because they’re just plain old good common sense… and rather normal. He was doing an in your face mofo to the idjits that call anything that is against george bush “librul” in answer to the pundits and such.

Well, if this is what he was saying, he picked a really confusing way of saying it. I thought Obama is a brilliant orator? You’re telling me that he is so inept that he inadvertently pissed on my leg? I call shenanigans. He knows exactly what the fuck he is doing, just like with the Reagan thing.

In the grand scheme, however, Myrtle June and I just have a difference of opinion on rhetoric, which is not so critical. However, Anonymoustache, another excellent blogger, made a substantive point about electoral politics that needs to be addressed:

The ideal path, ‘doing the right thing and getting into office’, is a fantasy today. I think it is impossible to be labeled a hard-core liberal and win. So one has to hope that at the end of the road, the winner turns out to be a hard-core liberal; and that he/she can slowly but surely demonstrate that liberalism is the only way of hope. Beating people over the heads with it—especially conservatives, who don’t think like liberals or at all for that matter—will be counterproductive. Reagan had the advantage that he was ‘converting’ an open-minded section of the populace—one that was willing to consider an alternative point of view. Our liberal candidate does not have that luxury–he/she has to approach it more like educating a stubborn and petulant child.

This is a total load of bullshit, and just recapitulates the same stupid fucking mistakes that Democrats have been making for the last 30 years. I understand exactly what Obama’s doing. I vehemently disagree with it on principled and pragmatic grounds.

If he continues with this electoral strategy, wins the nomination, and wins the general election, he is going to owe too much to too many who do not share my values. And I believe that he does not need to tack to the center and be “inclusive” towards those on the right in order to win.

Liberals currently have an opportunity to, rather than just “include” conservatives who can’t close their eyes to the current conservative-born clusterfuck, actually convince them that what is best for them and their families is unabashed liberalism.

If Reagan is such an inspiration to Obama, then how come he is ignoring the fact that rather than disavow conservatism to “include” Democrats, Reagan rather convinced them that “liberalism” didn’t represent their values, and conservatism did. This enabled long-term electoral success for Republicans, persisting well beyond Reagan’s presidency.

Obama has the opportunity to do the same thing in reverse. If he convinces non-wackadoodle-insane conservatives that it is liberalism that really represents their values, then he can create electoral advantage for Democrats that persists for a generation. By disavowing “liberalism”–even if he is also disavowing “conservatism”–he is turning this into a referendum on him as a particular individual that will not live beyond his presidency.

Other than the completely fucking insane 27%ers–who I think we can agree are beyond any possible redemption, will follow their conservative authoritarian leaders into the fires of hell spitting all the while about how Obama is a communist, fascist, Islamic, Hitler, and are not worth engaging at all in electoral politics–many Republican voters are ripe for being convinced that they are actually liberals.

We are living in a uniquely teachable moment, one that has not occurred in a generation, where a Democratic candidate has the opportunity to remind people that all of the values and attributes of the United States that we consider good are liberal.

Of course, Obama may understand all of this, and be doing what he is doing with full knowledge of, and desire for, the possible consequences of his strategic decisions. I am disappointed that he seems to be forgoing this once-in-a-generation opportunity. And I am angry that he decided to piss on my leg while doing it.

Apologists who–whenever Democrats piss on their unabashedly liberal base and try to convince right-wingers that Democrats really are just like them–say that this is just the kind of shit that Democrats need to do to get elected, and that progressive Democrats who take umbrage are political naifs, are buying in to anti-progressive right-wing sick-fuck propaganda specifically designed to keep Democrats out of power and to keep Republicans in power.

And stop telling me not to “hate Obama” because he panders to Republicans, that only “hard core liberals” give a shit about that kind of stuff anyway, and that we should shut our fucking naive mouths because pissing on our legs and doing the shuck-and-jive for Republicans is just “political necessity” for Obama, and that we “hardcore liberals” should just be happy if Obama throws us a bone or two if he gets elected.

I say, “Fuck That Noise!” It is shitty long-term electoral strategy for Democrats to claims that they are “just like the Republicans” in ways that matter. It is good electoral strategy to point out that the Republican Party is a refuge for scoundrels who truly hate what America stands for, and that the Democratic Party is built on the liberal principles that out nation was founded on.

The Republican Party didn’t achieve thirty years of unbridled power by pretending that we all want the same things and we should all get along. They achieved it by demonizing the left, and by convincing electoral majorities that the left does not have America’s best interests in mind. Democrats are poised to again fail to learn from their experiences, and are poised to do the same stupid fucking shit that has kept them out of power for the last thirty years.

Ordinary people do fucking care! They just need some Democrats to sack the fuck up and start telling them the fucking unalloyed truth about where we’re at, why we’re where we’re at, and whose fucking depraved plan it was to get us here!

All this happy horseshit about “both sides of the aisle want the same things” and  “it’s not about liberal and conservative; it’s about what’s best for America” is (1) a complete fucking lie that could have been written by Carl Motherfucking Rove and (2) totally fucking inept electoral strategy if Democrats want generational political power, like the Republicans have enjoyed for 30 years.

Keep it up if you want, but PhysioProf is going to continue calling it as I see it. The issue is not that we don’t understand how these things work. The issue is that we disagree about what the fuck to do about it.

And by the way, what I am saying has nothing to do with Obama versus Clinton. I considered the two of them indistinguishable enough that I didn’t even vote in the primary in my state given the previous demise of any of the candidates I had a true preference for. And believe me, I will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is, even if it’s some fucking dog catcher from Nebraska they pull out at the convention to break a deadlock.

22 Responses to “Hey, Barack: FUCK YOU and The Horse You Rode In On”

  1. PhysioProf Says:

    BTW, this is not about hating on Myrtle June or Anonymoustache. I respect them both a great deal, and it is only because they have so clearly and eloquently stated their positions that I have used their comments as the starting point for my post. PhysioProf loves all his colleagues in the progressive blogosphere. He only hates sick-fuck batshit-loonie right-wing wackaloon douchemongers.


  2. *bows down* I’m not worthy!

    A mighty rant!

  3. bikemonkey Says:

    BTW, this is not about hating on Myrtle June or Anonymoustache.

    Coward!

    Hate first, apologize later- this is the way of the Interwebz. So it has been, so it shall always be.

  4. the real cmf Says:

    Dont forget the Douchadactyls….and could you please use more Fnheimers in your writing–it helps with ‘flow’.

    re: “decades of conservative destruction of everything that is decent and wholesome in the world”

    I think he is combatting the form of proto-fascist,quasi conservative anti-male liberalism that his opponent Hillaryious has espoused for the last 35 years–you know, that kinder, gentler fascism that funds more police, builds prisons for lower income males, and offers all the jobs to women who put the baby before the bassinet–much to the demise of freedom, and civil liberties, and male votes.

    and re: “a Democratic candidate has the opportunity to remind people that all of the values and attributes of the United States that we consider good are liberal” Hillaryious forgot that amongst the die hard liberals, a bunch of us are men, and her polititic only speaks to the cuckolded amongst us;-)

    That leaves about, um, 11 primaries worth of losses where men voted–men that she forgot to calculate into her equations of health care “for women and children” and anti-violence initiatives for “women and children”. The chicken heads have come home to roost on their brood of single mother raised voters heads;-)

  5. PhysioProf Says:

    Your mom was not very nice to you, was she?


  6. Physioprof,

    I think you’re exactly dead on target.

    However, you should be nicer to horsies.

  7. Fade Says:

    I find myself at the foot of a master…

    A beautiful asskicking.

  8. droudy Says:

    Fanfuckingbeautimous.

    Well said!

  9. liberality Says:

    wow, I am impressed. your rant is right on target. fuck trying to appease those batshitcrazy fucking republicans who still think we need more of what we’ve gotten for the past 7 years. they must be either wealthy or stupid.

  10. Mr. Natural Says:

    Fuckin’ DLC is about to do it again…THIS time we get to lose to fucked up old John McCain! Unfuckingbelievable, aint it?


  11. Oh, so now a bunch of commenters are all like “great ass-kicking!!” Well, fuck that; put this in your pipe and smoke it, you hypocrites…
    —“We are living in a uniquely teachable moment…”—
    And I learned that
    — “It’s 3 am, your children are safe; the fucking hotline rings; (your children are about to be unsafe….terra terra terra…..); who do you want answering the phone? Do you want the person who answers the phone to, on her way to the office, happen upon her husband banging the maid and then get all distracted? etc etc”—
    would be an acceptable ad from the Obama campaign right?
    After all, in the thesis on idealism that you unleashed against Obama, there was no castigation of Hillary for resorting to Rovian tactics.

    Since you basically reposted much of the comments from the last post in this one, I will go back and repost my concession to you on the idealism:

    — “…many Republican voters are ripe for being convinced that they are actually liberals”—
    Given what ‘Republican’ has meant for the past 28 years, I have my doubts. But I do hope you are correct, and I will be glad to be proven wrong on that”—

    However, if you find Barack’s pandering to be so morally objectionable, where’s the outrage on Hillary’s resorting to fear-mongering bullshit?
    And, going by the results of last night, since it worked, get ready for the poo-flinging to begin in real fucking earnest now.

    I desperately hope that somehow both Obama and Clinton can keep this civil going forward; but even fucking NPR has suggested this morning that the negative tactics worked so the gloves may come off completely now. Like that message needs to be pounded out in the 24/7 newsertainment cycle.

  12. Fade Says:

    Hey, Anonymoustache0-I’m backing Obama over Clinton BECAUSE of three matters: the Fearmongering, the fact that she couldn’t be bothered to vote on FISA, AND most of all, that she put McCain AHEAD of a fellow Democrat in a recent comment comparing them. But, regardless, He should be espousing the fact that Liberal values ARE American values. I understand that he’s trying to reach across and bring Americans together, but he doesn’t have to do it by brushing aside the FACT that Liberals have been right, over and over the past eight years, while those on the right have been wrong, wrong, wrong. You want to really reach across the aisle? Be Strong, Don’t back down- Press them on the issues. No more milksopism/bipartisanship. The current crop of Republicans can’t frame this as Liberal versus Conservative anyway- they aren’t conservatives at all. Sorry, but it’s time we “kicked a little ass” instead of worrying about being polite to a segment of the population who have destroyed Habeus Corpus and think torture is an American value. Logic will not sway them.

  13. Fade Says:

    and as far as negative politics- it hasn’t worked. Not among Democrats. The bump in Texas for Hillary was due to many Repubs voting for Hillary in the primary just to keep the primary going and offer more of this ridiculous dissent amongst the Dems. The media just knows people are glued to their tvs when its Obama vs. Clinton. Who will watch when its McCain up there? Crickets chirping. Stay focused, and let’s try to keep people from getting off track. Clinton or Obama= doesn’t matter to me, they are much the same. I just wish they could attempt to maintain some high ground. THAT’S what will get the undecideds to vote Democrat in the real election. If you are working within either candidate’s organization- get the word out. This negativism is doomed to failure in the end.

  14. PhysioProf Says:

    After all, in the thesis on idealism that you unleashed against Obama, there was no castigation of Hillary for resorting to Rovian tactics.

    No, there wasn’t. That’s because the post was about Obama’s statements about liberalism. If every blog post has to include every topic in order to avoid spurious accusations of hypocrisy, we are all going to have to block out much larger portions of our schedules for blog reading and writing.

    Maybe this post will be more to your liking, or will you complain that it doesn’t criticize Obama enough?

    http://physioprof.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/hillary-clinton-makes-physioprof-look-like-a-total-fucking-asswipe/

    One thing worth pointing out is that as far as “negative” campaigning goes, even the worst that Obama and Clinton have dished out is namby-pamby schoolkid shit compared to what’s going to happen in the general election. This is politics, not a fucking Care Bears tea party.

  15. Fade Says:

    Yeah, but Physio- There are a LOT of non-voters (people who don’t normally vote) who are fired up by the positive messages against the same old, same old fearmongering and hateful froth of the Republican party. If this turns into a big mudslingin fest- They will say fuck it and not bother. I dont mind mudslinging at the fascists, the repubs. But, we, as Democrats and Liberals have been second class citizens for too long. We snipe each other, and we WILL stay at that level. Let McCain bring his fucking worst. But If I never see Hillary or Obama unjustly attacking each other over bullshit instead of actual policy- I’d be a happy camper.

  16. PhysioProf Says:

    Everyone is going to have plenty of time to forget about the primaries, once the general election battle is engaged. Does anyone remember that Giuliani was considered a front-runner at one point?

    I’ll say it again:

    This is politics, not a fucking Care Bears tea party.

  17. the real cmf Says:

    Hey fucker, are you fuckin talkin bout my fuckin mother? Mother fucker….Fuck you and the fuckin bassinet you floated into this bowl on…betchya my mom loved me more than yer mom nannanabooboooo…but not in the same “libationary-liberal” way ;-)

    And yet there is hope that somewhere, tonight, some overly liberal mother will be weaning her kid off of Care Bears, and teaching them that Obama represents a real change, but a whit woman who defines family as woman and child is the massa’s wifey…

  18. Myrtle June Says:

    Phisio, dear, are you one of them hillary’s secret supporters? Because I fucking just don’t know how you can analyze my fucking “ITS JUST FUCKING NORMAL” comment and make the statement: I considered the two of them indistinguishable enough that I didn’t even vote in the primary in my state given the previous demise of any of the candidates I had a true preference for.

    Because the difference between the two of them is as wide and deep and long as the Grand Canyon! And then there’s the issues! LIKE where the FUCK were they when we neeeeeeded someone from OUR party to stand against gwbushco’s iraq adventure. Where the fuck was their big bad Clinton machine then? It was goddam cowering in fear is where it was! AND we won’t even go to the place regarding their racist and sexist ways!!!!

    Let me be clear: The Clinton/bush IV campaign is every bit as invalid in MY estimation at the Clinton/bush III campaign. No more fucking crime families if you puleeeeze!!!

    And I have to give you my standard: If ya didn’t fucking vote, you can’t fucking gripe :-)

    Jes sayin’ ;-)

    Oh and thanks for the kind words, PhysioProf….. you rock! :-D

  19. Myrtle June Says:

    I, of course, meant “Physio, dear”.

    I also jes wanted to point out that the DLC beat the hell out of howard Dean with the “librul” stick. So, saying these things are “just common sense” also marginalizes thaaaat soon-to-be-used-by-the-coronation-express-candidate “librul” stick. You watch. hillary will be beating Obama with this “librul” shit any day now. He’s not marginalizing us liberals, he’s taking the DLC “librul” stick away from them.


  20. [...] PhysioProf has neatly summed up exactly what annoys me about the Democrats (and Obama in particular) constantly disavowing the fact that they are, in fact, more liberal than Republicans. If Reagan is such an inspiration to Obama, then how come he is ignoring the fact that rather than disavow conservatism to “include” Democrats, Reagan rather convinced them that “liberalism” didn’t represent their values, and conservatism did. This enabled long-term electoral success for Republicans, persisting well beyond Reagan’s presidency. [...]

  21. Jalama Says:

    Just what does a nigger in the woodpile do? I’m sortta vague on old sayings.

  22. Rorric S. Says:

    Lets take a vote. One hundred more years of political bullshit from all sides or complete and utter anarchy?
    Vote the former and enjoy the hell government puts you through, vote the latter and enjoy creating perpetual hell!

    Lets burn the whitehouse down, hang all the politicians and rules by majority instead of by privilege. Because that is what liberalism is really, power to the fucking people, screw the minority.

    So long as the majority of people are unhappy we all will continue to have a shitty day. Most of the unhappiness is due to money grubbers, land-grubbers, law-nazi/lawyers, and power-grubbers.

    Fuck them, fuck them and the horse they road in on.
    Anarchy and majority rule for the win!


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